How I Lost $1,400 Today and Why That's Okay
And so, I've bought on the down days. I have not sold, because I am a long term investor, in it for the long haul. I plan to continue to build my portfolio out until the day that I'm financially independent. Even after that, I don't ever plan to sell assets at a higher rate than they will be growing at. I plan to be a long term investor, never really decreasing my portfolio's value over the long term. Back to Warren's quote. I think he's dead on. As noted in the book "A Random Walk Down Wall Street" and in Jim Collins' stock series, the market fluctuates like mad. However, it always goes up over the long term. Why does it fluctuate? Because people speculate like crazy. When the media tells the whole country that a "fiscal cliff" is approaching, people panic and sell their stock, because they think the market will tank. The same thing happens with a presidential election, where emotions go wild. Right after the election, people freaked out. I believe they thought that Obama would wreck the economy with his spending plans. The market took a dip after his election. I bought stock. Then at the end of the year, the news scared the crap out of everyone with worries of a "fiscal cliff" approaching if congress didn't come to a deal. Investors panicked and sold a bunch of shares, causing the market to drop. I bought more shares. And today, with worries over China's economy, the market took it's biggest dip since last November. Shares of VTSAX, the stock I own, which is the Vanguard Total Stock Market Index fund, dropped $1.00 per share. I own 1,418 of them so I lost $1,418 today. Some would say ouch, but what did I do? I bought another $5,000 worth of shares today. I'm in a great cash position and I believe that the market is being fearful right now, which means it's my turn to be greedy. Am I scared? No, because I have a bunch of additional capital sitting in the bank that I can buy more VTSAX shares with at a discount, if the market keeps dropping. I'm all about buying cheap stock, so bring it on stock market. Keep going down, I dare you. It's pretty great when you can lose $1,400 and not have to worry about it. That just means that you're investing a ton of money and you're that much closer to reaching financial independence. If you aren't willing to take the hits of a drop in the stock market, you won't be set up to ride the growth of it when it takes off."Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful."
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13 Comments
- krantcents says:April 15, 2013 at 7:48 PM
I try to not get concerned with market drops or too happy when it goes up. I try to think long term and my portfolio has trended upwardly for quite a while although some stocks or funds go up and down.
- Kraig @ Young Cheap Living says:April 15, 2013 at 7:53 PM
KC, I try to do the same, but sometimes, it's hard to ignore a big change, either up or down. But yes, I'm in it for the long haul too. In my opinion, that's the best way to do it.
- Dividend Growth Investor says:April 16, 2013 at 9:14 AM
Haha, imagine if you had $1 million or more in the stock market on a day it declines by 2% ;-) This is why I invest for dividends - on the day of the 2% decline, my holding Procter & Gamble (PG) boosted dividends by 7%. My dividend income is going up, which is why I can afford to ignore the day to day fluctuations in my portfolio. Anywhere I look, everyone is holding back on buying stocks. This shows you that people are still fearful, rather than greedy.
- Emily @ evolvingPF says:April 15, 2013 at 7:59 PM
If I weren't so hard-core into DCAing I would have bought on a day like today. I have noticed, though, that since I consume so much financial information through the news and PF blogs I really have a hard time telling when "others" are being fearful or greedy. It seems that whenever something extreme happens one faction goes one way another faction goes the other way, following the advice! But I can't tell who moved first and who is trying to take advantage or whatever, so I just keep DCAing. :)
- CashRebel says:April 15, 2013 at 9:30 PM
I guess I'm somewhere in between you (Kraig) and Emily on this one. I love DCAing, for obvious reasons, but I've got a huge cash reserve that I'd love to get into the market if things start to crash for reals. That being said, I don't actually think it matters. The thesis of Jim Collin's stock series is really that no one can predict the market, and DCAing will always be your best bet. BTW, I LOVE the titel of this post.
- Dividend Mantra says:April 15, 2013 at 8:10 PM
Kraig, Great job keeping your eye on the long-term and being greedy when others are fearful. I couldn't agree more......since I also put fresh capital to work for me in the market today. I love drops like today, and look forward to more!! I think my portfolio was down about $1,700 today, but when others see red I see green. :) I, like you, hope the market goes down further. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Best wishes!
- Alyssa Baker says:April 25, 2013 at 6:42 PM
Sometimes loosing a good sum makes me feel a bit awkward, and I am into deep thinking why I have lost such amount if I can do better, right now am into www.24option.com trading binary options and other think that this one is never a good idea but with this kind of money making scheme, I try to keep a journal of my own trade and try to learn and trade properly out of it. And through the help of my very own journal I could keep track if I am over trading or not.
- Wade says:April 16, 2013 at 9:13 AM
I'm 41 and I've found I sleep better not owning individual stocks. To each their own, but volatility for a single stock is very high. For a sector is high as well. I buy relatively low cost mutual funds that span the different types. The hardest thing to live with lately is that everything goes down together and everything goes up together. If 2008 taught us anything it is Don't Panic. Selling on the way down is a poor strategy. Stick to your plan and buy when you were going to buy. Best to make it automatic.
- David says:April 16, 2013 at 10:35 AM
Kraig- great blog! I lost $670 yesterday on an investment I made last Friday. I have learned to play these scenarios out and wait for the market to rebound. I am currently investing in petroleum energy companies because their stocks have taken a dive.
- SHP says:April 16, 2013 at 11:20 AM
You may have had a unrealized loss but you don't lose (or gain) any money unless you sale.
- cv says:June 1, 2013 at 8:33 PM
I don't time anything, except as soon as my paycheck is deposited on the last day of the month, a portion of it goes automatically to vanguard. Think you can beat the system? Check out this forum http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/forum/investor-alley/it's-better-to-invest-when-the-market-is-at-a-record-high/
- ES says:August 6, 2013 at 9:40 AM
Hi Kraig, Is all of your VTSAX from contributing to a roth ira/ira (annual max around $5,500) or your buying in through a brokerage fund too?
- Kraig @ Young Cheap Living says:August 6, 2013 at 9:42 AM
ES, It's all in a regular brokerage account. Take care,